Interview: Sam Elbanna, Project Director Laver Residential Projects

Kanebridge News: What’s the allure of working in property for you?

Sam Elbanna: Property is the foundation of much of the world’s wealth and, for many Australians, a fundamental element of our lives. Property houses us, provides us with income, and gives us venues in which to work, play and be entertained. For me, working in property is exciting because it is tangible, always evolving and interesting due to the vast array of people I get to meet daily from all walks of life who are all brought together by property.

How do you think notions of homeownership have changed in Sydney over the last 5 years?

The last 5 years have seen numerous fundamental shifts in the way we live and work with Covid-19 being the biggest influence. Prior to Covid, certainly in the inner city, there had been a shift toward smaller apartments, often for singles and couples. This was further fuelled by affordability issues, investor demand etc. Many people were comfortable with this because the local area provided them with ample amenities to socialise, train and simply be around others.

Since we have adjusted to life with Covid, I have seen shifts in buying behaviour such as a strong desire to buy in lifestyle areas — for example near beaches, wanting apartments with designated office space, a strong desire for outdoor space nearby and as part of dwellings and for local entertainment.

What do you think people need to know before buying a property – what advice would you give them?

Buy where people want to live! We know people want to be near water, shopping, entertainment, restaurants and cafes. This alone assures regular capital growth.
Understand that people value convenience more and more each day.
If it is cheap, it is cheap for a reason. That means, don’t buy in a suburb because you get more house for your money, buy there because it will allow you to enjoy a lifestyle you desire and is likely to increase in value over time.
It is wise to sacrifice home size for better suburbs.
If you are priced out of a suburb, buy in the adjacent suburb… that’s where the price growth is.
If you forego luxury cars and holidays for 5 years and use that money to buy property, you will be in a much better position for the rest of your life.
Research research! research. I am often amazed at how people will spend more time deciding on a pair of $400 shoes than they spend buying a million dollar plus property. Information is readily available on your smart phones.

How has project marketing changed on the business front in the last 5-10-years?

The biggest change over the last ten years has been the extensive use of technology in the marketing and selling of property. Large proportions of advertising budgets are allocated to online advertising and, over the last 5 years, social media. We are now exchanging contracts and settling online. In February this year, I showed a buyer through a multi-million dollar property via facetime. Last week we exchanged numerous contracts where buyers signed on their smart phones. Essentially, it has become more apparent than ever that if you aren’t using technology extensively, you will be left behind.

You’ve chalked up over 5000 apartment sales in your time. Has it gotten easier, harder, different?

It is just different. For a start, the internet has changed the way we operate. It has broadened the reach of advertising, and the speed of communication with consultants. But with all the changes, the one fundamental that has remained the same is that we are in the people business. People buy real estate from people. They live in real estate with people. The properties are designed, and built by people. So, we in the sales industry have to recognise that, whilst we do this every day, the people we are selling to are making massive, life changing decisions. Successful project marketers take a collaborative approach to selling, act as advisors and play the long game.

What do you do differently that has given you longevity in the industry?

I would love to talk about discipline and hard work which obviously are important but for me, it’s a genuine love for the business. So even though some days are hard, I’m having fun and I’m surrounded by people that I genuinely like. Interestingly, many of my closest friends are somehow related to the business. And because it is constantly evolving, I am forced to constantly learn and embrace change which is exciting. Not really work is it?

What makes for a successful development, is there a recipe for success?

This quite simple… not easy but simple.

Identify your market.
Ascertain their needs and wants
Discover what they are able to or willing to pay if you provide them their needs and wants.
Calculate if you can design and build what the market needs and wants and readily sell it at a price they are willing to pay.

A live example of this is a project called The Halston in North Strathfield. Originally almost half the project was made up of 1 bedroom properties. It’s normally easy to ascertain what people want because we would look at other developments in the area and what they’re doing and how people are buying them.

But here, because there’s no new development, and hasn’t been for many years, we interviewed hundreds of people to get an idea of what people in the area wanted. It became obvious that there was strong demand for 3 bedroom properties as many people were selling their homes in the area and there was simply new little three bedroom stock available.

Now in the project, 1 bedroom units make up less than 30% and the number of 3 bedroom apartments has increased markedly. After a couple of days on the market, this has proven to be the right move with much of the interest being focussed on those apartments.

What does Laver offer that other firms don’t?

Laver is very different to other firms. It is a collection of some of property industry’s most experienced and successful people working together for a common goal. Each of us have complementary skills that are applied to each project to ensure success. We offer a complete end-to-end service to developers and financiers, from site acquisition, planning and design, right through to project marketing and sales strategy. Most importantly, our directors play an exceptionally hands-on role in every component of every project, including on the frontline making sales.

What do you think homeowners are looking for, is there a trend you see growing in the next 1-3 years?

I see a move towards a highly segmented market where trends within those segments will dictate the property landscape moving forward. For example, one of the fastest-growing and most affluent segments is the empty nester market. These are the children of the first baby boomers. These buyers are young enough to embrace technology yet old enough to understand the value of time and compounding. These buyers are overwhelmingly looking for lifestyle properties with ample space as they are often selling large family homes and anything smaller is a compromise. The other segment which will be influential on the property market are the first home buyers who are well paid, still living with their parents and seeking a property that appeals to their desire to live a certain way.

For more information on Laver Residential’s North Strathfield project, The Halston, click here.

Two years ago, fed up with the long drive to the Hamptons, the actress and daytime talk-show host Drew Barrymore started looking for a weekend home in Westchester County.

When she saw a circa-1700s mansion for sale, Barrymore said, she felt a karmic connection to the Harrison, N.Y., property.

“I walked in, and I was, like, ‘I know my family’s been here. I know that I have to work on this house. I know that I’m supposed to be doing this,’” said Barrymore, 51 years old, who lives primarily in Manhattan with her two daughters. “It was like a strange, spiritual calling.”

It turned out she actually did have a connection to the area: Her great-aunt, the late actress Ethel Barrymore, had a home in nearby Mamaroneck, where an enclave known as Barrymore Lane is widely believed to be named for the family.

Barrymore bought the roughly 12-acre estate for $4.4 million, according to property records. She did an extensive renovation; she has a deep interest in interior design and has considered pursuing it professionally. “Between Pinterest, thrifting and a can of paint, there’s nothing you can’t do,” Barrymore said with a laugh.

But roughly two years later, the actress is listing the property for $4.99 million. The renovation took longer than expected, she said, and the family’s lives have changed in the interim.

The estate includes a roughly 5,600-square-foot, five-bedroom main house, a pool and a poolhouse with an additional bedroom, according to Kori Sassower of Compass.

Barrymore said she previously owned a home in Sagaponack, N.Y., but the distance from the city and the weekend traffic to the Hamptons became untenable as her children’s schedules filled up with social and sporting activities.

Harrison, by contrast, offered accessibility and charm. The property, located roughly an hour from Manhattan, is a short drive from picturesque Rye and Bronxville, while nearby Bedford has drawn celebrities. The median sales price for a home in Harrison is around $1.1 million, according to Redfin.

The property’s expansive acreage gave Barrymore a sense of being close to nature. “It’s really like being in your own personal park,” she said. “There are tons of deer. There are pheasants, there are ducks, there are rabbits.”

When she purchased the home, Barrymore said, she thought it would need only a cosmetic renovation. Instead, it turned into a “complete internal gut,” with much of the plumbing, heating and air conditioning replaced, she said.

Barrymore also revamped the ground floor to open up the kitchen, which felt dark and boxed in. “It took a year of engineering to figure out how to accomplish it,” she said.

Barrymore declined to comment on the exact costs of the renovation, but compared herself to actress Shelley Long’s character in the 1986 film “The Money Pit.”

Some of the rooms have maximalist patterned wallpaper, elaborate art walls and heavy, old-fashioned draperies. Others are minimalist. “Every little corner gets scrutinised for what it could be,” she said. “If I see a closet, it’s probably not a closet, it’s going to become some secret hideout for my kid, or I’m going to take the door off and turn it into a sculptural piece.”

In the home’s living room, Barrymore said she cycled through multiple paint colours, including pink and green.

“I painted it all green because I was dying for greenery. And then the summer came, and I was, like, ‘Oh, God, everything is green!’”

She spent time at the property even while it was under construction. When they didn’t have a kitchen, the family cooked dinner on a grill outside and drank boxed water, she said.

When workers were redoing the pipes, Barrymore couldn’t shower. “I lived in the house in the most primitive of scenarios,” she said. “It’s some of my favourite times and memories.”

When Barrymore celebrated her birthday at the property in February, she and two friends decided to grill for old time’s sake, even though the kitchen was fully functional.

“There we were in zero-degree weather with parkas, hoodies, gloves and face masks. But we were, like, ‘We gotta do it. It’s the tradition.”

Barrymore, who grew up in Los Angeles, stars in films like “Never Been Kissed,” “Riding in Cars With Boys” and “Charlie’s Angels.” Her eponymous daytime talk show launched in September 2020.

Sassower is listing the property with her colleague Brian K. Lewis in New York City.

Interview: Sam Elbanna, Project Director Laver Residential Projects

We discuss home ownership trends, development success and longevity in the sector.

The actress, who felt a ‘spiritual calling’ to the Harrison, N.Y., property, is asking $4.99 million for the home.